Lance found a car he liked on eBay and placed a low bid. When the auction closed, he was delighted to find himself the winner. He got an amazing deal. He left negative feedback a. She and Lance lived in different states…and how far could he get without a car? Having said that, newbies are especially protective of their feedback—and for good reason. The risk may or may not be worth it to you. Just be sure your feedback is calm and factual so others trust your words.
Name-calling in all caps with multiple exclamation points only makes you look like a hothead, as seen in Figure Remember that people tend to read the profiles of both people involved in a dispute, so retaliatory feedback is pretty easy to spot and disregard.
After she won and the seller invoiced her, she noticed the cost for shipping had doubled. When Leslie questioned the seller about it, he told her he made a mistake in the listing and besides, she got such a great deal she had no room to complain. A seller is never permitted to demand or even ask for additional fees.
If you feel a mistake in a listing was an honest one, you may want to discuss some sort of compromise with the seller. Keep all emails from the seller, since eBay will want to see them as proof of your claim. If you can prove the seller refused to sell to you under the terms of the auction, eBay will remove the strike and reprimand the seller.
And, of course, you can always leave appropriate feedback for him as well. Shill bidding or shilling is the act of a seller or an accomplice using another ID to bid on her own item to drive up the price.
As a buyer, the best way to avoid being shilled is to bid late in an auction. You should also generally try to avoid private auctions , which hide bidder identities and make shilling harder to spot see Figure As a rule, the only legitimate private auctions are those in the Mature Audiences category.
Some extremely exclusive, very expensive items also use the private auction format to protect the bidders from being spammed by other sellers and to prevent fraudulent Second Chance Offers. See Chapter 6 for more on this. The only thing you can do as a buyer is to stall your payment for a few days while eBay investigates. Exclamation point. Select your punctuation of choice, but do it while refusing to pay the seller. Often all it takes is a little sleuthing in the right place to confirm or dispel your suspicions.
Start at the Advanced Search page, linked from the upper right of every eBay page. Often the shilling ID places several bids, the last of which surpasses the legitimate high bidder, and then the seller cancels only the most recent bid. Or auctions where the ID retracted all her own bids? Enter the ID of the seller. Do a similar search on the suspected shilling ID. Are both people in the same state? If we identify any malicious behavior, we'll take steps to prevent it.
Shill bidding happens when anyone—including family, friends, roommates, employees, or online connections—bids on an item with the intent to artificially increase its price or desirability. In addition, members cannot bid on or buy items in order to artificially increase a seller's feedback or to improve the item's search standing.
Make sure you follow these guidelines. If you don't, you may be subject to a range of actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account. Shill bidding is also illegal in many places and can carry severe penalties. Buying an item from someone you know, as long as you don't intend to artificially increase its price or desirability or violate our feedback manipulation or search and browse manipulation policies.
In fact, I learned to save most of my bidding for the last few minutes. The Reticulator View Comment :. All you do is drive the price up. We have bought numerous things over the years from eBay, and even sold a few. In the early days we used to buy high end sunglasses Serengeti at a huge discount, but those days seem to be gone.
Amazon has been so reliable as far as finding the best price that probably 95 percent of our on line shopping is through them. Although Mrs. Seems to me that I get a second chance offer on any auction that I bid on but failed to win.
Forgot your password? Lost your password? Please enter your email address or username. You will receive an email with a link to set a new password. Join Ricochet Login. Get Your First Month Free. Listen to Our Free Podcasts. The eBay site offers this info for sellers on the circumstances when they can use this tool: With a Second Chance Offer, a non-winning bidder gets the chance to buy the item at a price equal to their last bid.
Tags: wedontneednostinkinethics. There are 21 comments. Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member. Definitely sounds like a shill bidder to me. He jerked me around for awhile and then, on a weak pretense, refused to pay. No more EBay for me. Just too much hassle. Mendel View Comment : Definitely sounds like a shill bidder to me.
Darn Kids! Get off my Grass Mendel! I buy everything from Lord Bezos these days anyways………. Have never visited Craigslist since. And have never visited EBay.
I remember watching this:. That cloud needed yelling at. That guy sure does get around. The Reticulator View Comment : Full Size Tabby View Comment : I have never bought anything off of eBay, but I have heard enough stories around sudden increases in price in the last few hours or minutes of an auction particularly in connection with cars that I have long assumed that there was a significant amount of fake bidding to drive up the price. Sign in. Remember me. The hyperlinks to the YouTube video are all valid.
I tested each hyperlink — direct open in browser, direct open in YouTube, and copy-paste to browser. If you would like to search for the title of the video, you may as I included that in the post. Since the link has been removed, there's no way curtently to view the video. The first thing I wondered after reading your post, why would the "scammer" post a video admittng to committing a crime repeatedly, when it could lead to criminal prosecution, if someone who fell for their scam were to view it, and connect it to their case?
If the person were smart enough to scam the number of people necessary to become a power seller? New ID with info from the dark web, and no link whatsoever to their previous account. Read the qualifications for becoming a power seller below. Could the point of the video posibly be to lull people into a false sense of security? When ebay has caught big time scammers, it usually gets published someplace, and can be found online, usually as a report about a court case, did the video give info on where any public info could be found?
I have no doubt ebay does try to identify sellers using shills to raise auction prices. However, they are constrained by the rules of evidence, and have to have irrefutable proof before banning them, or they could end up in court as a defendant.
Getting that proof is not always easily done, if the seller is careful. Back in the days before hidden IDs and purchase and bidding histories, even working with a US based ebay rep, It took me and the rep 3 months of mining information, to prove a seller was using shills on their auctions.
They didn't do it all of the time, so there was doubt. A few of the shills did win auctions and pay just to throw off any investigation. Not being cynical, I believe that the man was trying to make amends for his misdeeds. He admitted what he had done wrong in a video posted on a public forum for all to see, something that scammers never do.
In addition, he provided a warning to other scammers and sellers who use shill bidding — eBay will catch you and ban you from the eBay Community.
So, while you may want to take a negative view, I prefer not to do so. The man admitted what he had done and he seemed to display remorse. If he learned from this and changed his ways then that is a good thing.
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